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trunk under the obama--shrunk under the obama administration. i'm going to ask each of you the same question. who won the debate and will it matter. >> i think joe biden clearly won the debate. you can gauge that by the other side complaining by the style issues and not going to the substance. i think it will be merged in the polling data with whatever happens on tuesday in the presidential. but i think they've started a theme. if the president kind of continues in biden's direction it will merge together, and you'll start to see polling data to support that it was a very good debate for the democrats. >> michael: thomas frank. >> i would say biden won on issue but ryan won on decorum. one thing that biden did that i really liked when he would start on those grand rhetorical flights about the wonders of liberalism and the middle class he tend to wander off but those were inspiring. if barack obama could talk that way, they would have this thing in the bag. >> michael: indeed, they would. i think a lot of people were watching it that way. guys, he had a great time. errol louis and th
in the obama administration. he hasn't given an architecture an intellectual framework for the public to grasp on to. which would have justified the stimulus and health care bill. >> right. i think one of the reasons he hasn't done it is he is afraid if he does that it will make him vulnerable. so he tries to stay to the context, this policy for this reason, as opposed to an overarching plan for what it means to create opportunity. >> eliot: ken unfortunately time is running short. should democrats be panicking or is this a overreaction to one bad evening? and then next week the president will turn to normal. >> they are certainly putting a lot of stock into the vice presidential debate do think this greater unsettled atmosphere around the obama campaign and the administration but we always knew this was going to be a tight race some of the lead was going to shrink headed into the debates and into november, so i don't think we have seen quite as major of a shift as some democrats are fearing at that point. >> eliot: tricia last question to you. the democrats are putting all
. that's identical to the obama administration position. >> eliot: and it may be happening. those are the covert efforts that may be running through iran saudi saudi arabia. >> they are. >> eliot: they don't want to publicize them. but jon, let's go to you. you have been in iraq. you heard what romney said we should be doing differently in iraq. how does it strike you. you had boots on the ground, tell us your reaction. >> i was shocked. he some how thinks he could have done differently in iraq. we were being bounded by the militia, supported by iran. we can build the hardware of democracy but it does not mean that we'll win the election. fringe elements of the militia last week killed troops after combat was supposedly over. there was no way they were going to agree to have american troops stay. he made some speech talking about how this president messed up and how iraq is in chaos. that's preposterous. was he going to lead guys like me out in the field out immunity? on afghanistan he sat there and where we have troops engaged in combat now. now he's saying yeah, i don't want to
not change wherethe depressed place where many americans are. nobody thinks that president obama is going to steal an election on trumpeting unemployment. it is still a high number. and it forces the administration that will be leveled against him. >> eliot: let's talk politics. wednesday night mitt romney had the best day of his campaign. head to head against the president, and the president was not performing up to par not what we expect of him as a communicator, what we expect, articulating is what he's all about. suddenly the winds have been taken out of the sails of mitt romney a little bit, the data, the real data, there are so many things that ever three of us do is not there to substantiate his claim. what can he now do to say i really do have an engine of growth that i am going to start. >> he can't use that 8.1%, it matters a little bit. what he said today is what he'll continue to say. it's not good enough, fast enough and there are a few things that i think i can do to make it grow faster. but it's harder to make the case that obama has failed entirely on the economy when obvi
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